2 or More Occurances of a channel in MIDI layers

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2 or More Occurances of a channel in MIDI layers

Postby bcslaam » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:57 pm

I frequently come to situations where I need a bit of, say piano, at the top and a bit at the bottom with another zone inbetween.
Or want to make an octave layer with the same instance, or fit a lower register right next to a higher one.

All of these situations are currently impossible using the same plugin instance (to save resources).

Please allow us to choose a second or third layer of any one midi channel in the midi configuration.

It wont disrupt people who dont need it and
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Postby mgarrett » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:53 pm

So you mean the ability to layer MIDI to a single instrument on a single channel?

You should be able to layer to day on separate channels.

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Postby bcslaam » Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:51 pm

Hi Mike
Yes I have been utilising as normal. But once you use up any one channel in the layer it dissappears from the available list of channels.
There are some instruments such as kontakt that are multitimbral and having another of the same instrument on a different channel is not possible for various reasons. eg already full up
I thought it wouldn't be much drama to enable all channels to be always available when you bring up the list in a layer. Thus have two layers of say channel 2 with different key mappings. I guess the controller mapping isn't relevant however.
Sorry for the longwinded explanation.
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Postby FirmamentFX » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:00 am

I came onto this forum to suggest exactly the same thing! :)

I wanted to use it in a slightly different way - I wanted to "map" layers (I come from a Kurzweil background and had a lot of mapped patches in my rig) so I could trigger entire chords from 1 note.

There are also occasions when I want to play 2 or more octaves from 1 note.

Cheers!

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Postby Angel » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:21 am

Me, too!

I also would like to layer lets say Midi Ch1 to three times Midi Ch1, with different transpose and zone settings.

Application: Octave string sounds, single-key chords, weird key-zone splittings for VSTi which respond on only a single Midi channel.

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Re: 2 or More Occurances of a channel in MIDI layers

Postby Mark Kelly » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:02 am

I agree this would be very useful. I have a number of songs where I have say a piano across the entire keyboard and a single note somewhere in the middle where there is NO piano but a sample to be triggered instead. This enables me to play piano with both hands while triggering samples at different times to the piano notes I need to play without interrupting my piano playing to do it.

There is a workaround for this if you are using EHCo. Change the channel from bypass to say CH1 and then although your layers will be mapped to different channels they will be forced to all play on ch 1

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Re: 2 or More Occurances of a channel in MIDI layers

Postby mikefkeys » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:17 pm

I wanted to chime in on this feature as well - I too came to this forum to request this feature and found this existing thread. It would provide tremendous flexibility if I could use the same incoming MIDI channel to generate multiple notes on the output. Currently, I have a few sounds that I want to play as octaves from a single key, but I'm forced to use up two zones on my keyboard controller (two different incoming MIDI channels can have their notes transposed differently and then mapped back onto the same channel). Thanks!
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Re: 2 or More Occurances of a channel in MIDI layers

Postby mgarrett » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:45 am

I've been doing some feasibility investigation into this request. Over the years, there's been alot of similar requests. What I've found is that moving to a 1-many channel mapping is a HUGE effort in the code. However, what about multiple key ranges with individual transpose instead for a single channel mapping? Would this solve it? It seems like the fundamental problem revolves around NOTE messages (not controller messages). Also, this would keep your ranges in one place rather than spread across different mapping pages.

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