Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

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Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby rank » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:09 pm

When start Forte 3 64 bit, it starts normally then I load a rack, it goes to shut down screen and will shut down unless I intervene and I hit "Cancel, then Forte will continue loading rack.

then
Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exiting Forte.

This is odd. Tried searching for this to no avail.

Computer doesn't "crash"...but shuts down by itself normally when I exit out of Forte'.

Is there something in the "Options.ini" file I need to change perhaps?
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Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby rank » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:34 am

Since I've applied the 3.2 UPADATE this keeps happening.

Any clues to why; Anybody?
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FIXED -- Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Fo

Postby rank » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:06 pm

FIXED!
There was something running in the background of Win 7 that I had never seen on before; maybe somehow it got turned on or was just there all along and never showed any problems before:
"Windows Defender"

For some reason when I updated to Forte version 3.2 it was causing the system to shut down as described.

Turned off "Windows Defender" via search through the Control Panel and all is good once again!

Maybe this thread will help some one else avoid the 3 days of hell I just experienced.

Cheers!
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Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby MikeG » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:51 pm

That is really bizarre! Anyone else seen this?
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Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby rank » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:44 pm

Yes, it was bizarre.

so is this more like a make fun of people forum?
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Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby MikeG » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:16 am

Not at all! I'm sorry if the comment was not clear.

This board I can honestly say is the most "collegial" board I've ever seen. People have a high degree of respect for one another here and I've never seen a flame war.

I've heard of Windows Defender but I'm not sure exactly what it does and I've never heard of anyone having it shut their PC down like that. The biggest concern for me (and why I asked) is that if WD thinks Forte is somehow "bad" I need to know what its criteria are so Forte can be acceptable to it.

Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding. Glad you got it sorted out.
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Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby Dirk Offringa » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:02 pm

Anything special in Windows event log? Looks like when forte opens/closes a driver WD takes action thinking the driver is malware/spyware. Does this happen with other apps that use the same drivers (audio/midi/ASIO whatever you configured forte for)? Othe possibility: you actually DO have spyware on your computer, and it's being activated while loading/unloading a rack. Could have come with a plugin.

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Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby rank » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:32 pm

Again, sorry for the grumpiness.

This machine I've tried to keep very clean, I didn't think about a plugin install that could have install spyware.
Since I hardly ever have this machine on the Internet, I don't have McAfee installed.
Is there a way I can remove spyware without installing anything else?
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Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby Dirk Offringa » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:39 pm

Well, basically, that IS what Windows Defender does. So the best thing to do at this point, is to take a look at your Windows Event logs. Maybe (in fact, there is a fair chance there is) something has been logged and might point you into the right direction.

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Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby rank » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:36 am

Ah; will try and check the logs on Monday.

Thanks.
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Re: Forte causes Computer to Shut Down when exit Forte

Postby lancaster6 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:18 pm

another windows defender casualty. I didn't even know I had it running, but after disabling it, my startup time went from 8+ minutes, to 1 minute 45 secs! I had narrowed down the long startup time to my EEG strawberry guitar vsti. when it was removed from the rack startup time was normal. my guess is that windows defender was scanning this vsti upon loading forte. DISABLE WINDOWS DEFENDER!


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